Tuesday, August 14, 2012

Your Rush ECHO for Tuesday 8-14-2012

We welcome Noel Sheppard to our eList for our eNotes.
 
Your Rush Limbaugh Echo for Monday, 8/14/12
Student NOTES from Institute juniors, not 'official'
Opening:   We'll put the Biden video up.
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Seg#1:  To his Black audience, VP 'Bite me' tries out his Black dialect
There are some Black citizens in VP Biden's audience of 660.  ((Reading:  Romney will put ya'all back in chains. Yo people . . .))  He rails on Republicans and Medicare.  Obama took $700billion from Medicare and put it elsewhere for double-counting.  It is a real transfer of money to keep his Obamacare costs down.
 
Nobody over age 55 has any change; and for
those under age 55, they get to choose. .!.
 
Bo Snerdley is as informed as anybody except me (or I am) and if Rachael Maddow didn't know (like Snerdley) was scared that Medicare doesn't change and Obama stole $700billion from Medicare.  She couldn't answer on TV.
 
It's like Debbie Blabbermouth Schultz and Rachel Maddow are hearing it for the first time.  I knew The Donald was joining the Romney camp, but kept it a secret.  Vahl Levin writes ((Reading:  I don't think Maddow and Schultz were putting out the lie; it is worse than that; they haven't grasp what Obama wants to do to them.))  Yes, exactly what I thought: you can see their panic start to rise.
 
We know they have been lying to us;  now you see them start to realize that they have been lying to themselves.  We are 'double-down' truthful and serious about ideology now.  We are not talking about Romney tax returns, Robin Hood, and murdering wives anymore.
 
What does the Future portend if we get this wrong?
 
It is a golden opportunity that these people don't know.  They are not innocent dups, but Marxists like Obama.  They live in their own created universe where they are smarter than everyone else.  Now, we see they are stupid.  It is true of many high in media.  They are the opposite of their PR. They just now awaken.
 
They can't defend this;  it leads to a further web of lies.  They are smug about it.  Here is some more Yuval Levin.  Democrats never defend their ideology, but rather lie and deceive who they really are.  Their ideology represents only 25% of the population.  That doesn't work now—they re going to have do discuss ideology and are just now realizing that.  ((Reading: Medicare is no longer their issue.  It was a slamdunk back then, based on lies.  Exit polls didn't predict the Bush win and midterms.  The rhetoric they usually fall back to are shown to be false.  Ryan's plan doesn't change Medicare for those over age 55.))
 
It's their guy, Barack Hussein Obama, that is pushing grandma over the cliff, not Paul Ryan.  They are going to have to rewrite their Olde Playbook. Now they know that we know and can prove The Big Lie is just that.
>>> They have to go in TV and lie, and know that we can prove the lie.
Some TV hosts are 'deer-in-the-headlights'.  Is this a new place for them?
 
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Seg#2:  Marxists Obama and Biden are ruining US on purpose
((Clip:  They said it, every Republican voted for it.  . . .   He's going to put you-all back in chains.
 
If anybody is conducting war on seniors, it is not Paul Ryan and Republicans—It is Barack Obama.  Medicare is bankrupt in ten or 11 years.  How is Obama doing anything to save it?  He does nothing!  He is taking nearly $1TRILLION out.
 
If you are a young person, you see it collapsing before your eyes;
and not only that, you are left with the Debt and bill to pay.
 
>>> Obamacare is set to ruin Medicare, and Obama doesn't care.
 
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Seg#3:  Debbie Blabbermouth is a Barbie-blabbermouth-doll   ;-)   :-) 
Obamacare was a beautiful thing, except it all lies.  We knew it.  We read it.  People at Heritage Foundation took it apart.  Democrats in media and in Congress didn't read it.  They just drank the kookaide and read talking points.
 
Stephanopoulos asks Howard Dean and asks if $700billion cut out of Medicare and moved to Obamacare if that is enough(?)  ((Clip-Dean: Nobody will believe that Democrats will cut Medicare.  Paul Ryan can say it all day and people will not believe it.))  He is wrong about the same people getting the money from Obamacare.
 
We have to beat the media, not persuade them.  They are Marxists too.
 
CNN Wolf Blitzer hammers and hammers—give him credit.  "Anyone over 55 or seniors in Florida will not be affected.  You do accept that, don't you Blabbermouth?"  ((Clip-Schulz:  NO!  The Romney-Ryan plan would increase premiums for $6,500 per year. Etc.))  Wolf asks her to explain how it affects those over age 55.  ((She repeats, "I don't know what you are talking about.)) 
 
Blabbermouth is a Barbie-doll blabbermouth, pull the string and I'll say it again.  ((Clip-as-she-continues-on: The voucher would not provide.))  ((Clip-Wolf: It does not apply to those over age 55.))  "They would continue to have that safety net." "No they wouldn't"   In three minutes, Wolf Blitzer told her eight times.  Wolf Blitzer missed that those over age 55 also have the option to remain in Medicare as written. 
 
There will be an option to receive what would be spent for you with Medicare, and (1) you shop on your own, and (2) keep what you don't spend.
 
Either Blabbermouth actually doesn't know, or she is not a good liar.
 >>> Either way, there are seniors out there that will be confused.
Rush and Conservative strategists will let them dig their own hole.
 
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Seg#4:  Respond with the truth      TV appearance and SuperPAC ads
eMail: Debbie Schultz won.  Propaganda wins every time it is tied and over and over she said, "Paul Ryan and Romney shred Medicare" [and Social Security].
 
Nobody watches CNN but that is an interesting point.
 
Did Hitler succeed with Truth or Propaganda?  Clinton also?  Who is winning and who will win?  We are winning and we will win in November.   People react to fear and Fear always win?  Our side needs to press the truth.
 
Caller: It is the same as Congress gets.  Paul Ryan delivers. 
       You think the message to the young should be:  you can have the same program that federal workers can have?
>>> I don't know if that would be a winning argument—I'll check it out.
 
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Seg#5:  Caller is exactly right, and Ryan has pitched his plan that way.
>>>   >>>      It has even been reported in The New York Times.
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Seg#6: Republican National Convention will be Mon-Thu, August 27-30. 
(Theme Music) We are in an unstoppable pursuit of the Truth.  Going to Convention?  In 1992 in Houston was my last; now I'm too famous.  Networks are going to broadcast only from 10-11pm each day, Monday-Thursday, August 27-30.  Cable TV will cover more.  Pundits will laugh and comment throughout the talks, making fun of Republicans.
 
April 18, 2011, The WSJ wrote what Paul Ryan said:  the plan will be very close to what Congress has.  ((Reading: New beneficiaries can choose from a list of a premium support plans chosen by recipients.))
 
Popularity of Paul Ryan over the weekend with seniors has risen dramatically.  Paul Ryan should 'shadow' Obama to refute everything he says; go to where he goes.  Obama would know that Ryan would refute it the next day.
 
There is the fund-raising gap for Romney and now the crowd-gap for Romney-Ryan. 
 
There are two stories, saying the same thing:  Politico and The Hill: both say some Republicans are worried they could lose seats in the Senate and House.  Not one person is named.  Question (1) is this true or was it waiting in the drawer for any VP-pick?  Did we ever see their story on how Obamacare would hurt the Democrats?  Where were the unnamed sources?
 
We never see that un-named Democrat strategists are worried that this or that will hurt Obama-Biden.  We know there were Republicans assigned to Palin to undermine her.  What they worry now about is Conservatives taking their seats.
 
I don't for a moment misunderstand—you know it and I know it.  We have Republicans in Congress that hate Conservatives as much as Democrats do.  But that doesn't automatically make the [Leftist] stories true.
 
((Reading The Hill:  Unnamed sources are concerned that Ryan's Plan will be unpopular and be demonized.))  Obamacare is ten times more unpopular than the Paul Ryan plan.  Why is it hard for our side to understand? 
 
There are Republicans that are happy to be 'losers' if it keeps their seat.  Do the Republicans even have 30 strategists who are saboteurs?  I mention it just to alert and warn you.  Bryon York noted we don't circle the wagons like Democrats do.  They are out to beat Conservative/Republicans; they remain unified.  'Wipe us out' is their singular focal point. Their #1 Enemy, is us.
 
They have absolute hatred of us winning;  they can't handle it.
>>> Republicans, on the other hand, are willing to 'reach across the aisle'.
When in power, Democrats lock Republicans out of chairmanships and discussion.
 
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Seg#7:  Obama pledged to Taper to veto any move to remove cuts
((Reading Politico:  There is an unmistakable consensus among Republican operatives that Romney took a risk that could go terribly wrong, in choosing Paul Ryan.))  Talk about being on the wrong page.
 
((Clip-ABC-Jake-Tapper: Congress will do something bold, and then undo it when an election comes. Will you do that?))  ((Clip-Obama:  Yes, we took from Medicare, 1/3 of the cuts.))  Notice that Obamacare is no longer 'deficit-neutral'
>>> and will blow a $1TRILLION hole in the Budget next year.
Rush wonders if Blabbermouth likes her plan (same as what Ryan proposes).
 
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Seg#8: Many people do not want to believe Obama is destroying USA
Caller: Ryan might be a desperate move?  Obama-loney! 
        This is a pick that presumes winning!  It is a governance pick.
Caller:  Strong leaders pick strong people around them.
        To see Paul Ryan, there is standing-room-only in Colorado.
 
Our voters want to be at the ballot box yesterday, can't wait.  The crowd gap is rattling VP Bite-me and doesn't even know what state he is in.  "I don't want to hear about your values;  I want to see your Budget."  Joe, you guys don't have a budget.  Where's your budget.  ((Clip-Joe-Biden:  He is going to let the Big Banks write their own rules.  He is going to put yuall back in chains.))  Just Joe?  He's a walking buffoon and Obama and everyone knows it.
 
Olympian Gabrielle Douglas in on The Tonight Show with Michelle my Belle Obama.  ((Clip-First-Lady:  Egg McMuffin?  We don't do that.  You are setting me back.  [laughter] ))  Of all the things to say!    ((Reading:  Michelle told me I can't eat a fried twinkie.))  He said that in Iowa.  He is the leader of the free world.
 
Caller-VA: Saw your TV show.  Obama is waging war on seniors.  Say it this way:  Obama is waging war on America;  turning to Communism.
        When was the last time you ate a fried twinkie?   Yes, many see that Obama hurts America and his policies are taking our freedoms.   Can the people you associate with and talk to believe Obama does this on purpose. Can they imagine this? 
> Can they get their arms around it?  No, they don't want to believe it.
 
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Seg#9:  Their 'stuck-on-stupid' is surpassed only by their arrogance!
Twice in two days, CNN Soledad O'Brien also got in trouble. 
 
She never gave credit to the Leftist blog, and said she was reading the Ryan Plan.  She doesn't know what she is talking about and gets caught taking talking points from the blog.  Today, she has John Sununu on and says numbers have been debunked, as she laughs.  ((Clip-Sununu:  He gutted Medicare by $700billion.  [She talks over him and argues]  Put an Obama-Biden sticker on your head when you say this.))  Same with Candy Crowley.  You see why nobody watches CNN.
>>> She is one of their 'stars' and mouths [Marxist] talking-points.
 
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Seg#10:  Of course Sununu was right and Soledad had no clue
> >  The leftist-blog didn't agree and so Sununu couldn't be right.
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Segment#11:   The debt of GM is a "big success" ?
(Music) Welcome, if you are just joining us.  Every August I have a golf trip to Hawaii, but have cancelled this year. This is it for me this week until Tuesday and Mark Belling will substitute.  I have some golf business even though not attending.
 
Barack Obama gave UAW unions more money than we send out on foreign aid.   They received double what we pay other nations.  They received more than the budget of the State Dpt.  There is a monthly report sent to Congress.  Taxpayers lose $25billion and the estimate may rise.  Obama says he wants to do this to other private industries. 
 
Politico got some plans for the Democrat Convention: "It's a big success story"  Heritage Foundation writes that the only people rescued were the union members.  It is 50% more than NASA's budget.  These are staggering figures!
 
I hope they do make it their keynote.  Auto union members were given GM and Chrysler, plus $26billion.
 
Penn State is put on notice because of the Sandusky scandal.  ((Reading Aug 8th:   Meet government requirements and report standards to a committee.))  Their academic accreditation is being questioned.  If they lose that, they may as well close their doors. 
 
Are we to believe that the sex scandal of one man brings into question the teaching of university courses?   They already penalized their football program.  This is piling on. 
 
The accreditation board is also questioning their financial stability.  Some people are out to destroy this university.  I know it was reprehensible, but by no means the first time at a college; it is way out of proportion.  Something is going on here.
 
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4267954,00.html Homosexuality is a criminal offense in Lebanon and other nations.
>>> But in our country, Libs think the problem is Chick-fil-A.
 
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Seg#12:  Liberal Democrats always circle the wagons around gaffes
Stefanie Cutter says they have no issue with Biden's comment;  Obama would agree, "We totally stand by these comments."  They say Romney and Ryan are 'decent guys' but just want to put people back in chains.
 
"We stand by the vice-president fully."  Their response is that Romney essentially called Obama, 'un-American'. 
 
Caller:  Run ads like "Medi-Scare".  Have Biden push granny over the cliff.
          Maybe Obama and Biden pushing an old man and an old woman over the cliff.  Keep on offense, offense, offense.  Debbie Blabbermouth has no clue.
 
Caller: I write political speeches.  Do you look forward to debates?
         An Obama Liberal will moderate each of the debates.
>>> Ryan taking on Biden will be an Olympian taking on a sock-puppet.  
 
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Seg#13:  Team Romney has a good ad about the $700billion
There is a latest Romney ad ((Clip:  Took $700billion from Medicare. [music])) 
 
((Clip: We are the ones that are not raiding Medicare.  Make it for both the seniors and the younger generation.))  In the past, Republicans have not responded but just change the spending.  They try to prove they are not the heartless creeps.
 
We now see our candidates taking this rhetoric head-on.  Howard Dean says nobody will believe Democrats would cut Medicare.  At some point, this has to be addressed.  [Talking about it used to be the electrocution rail of the subway.]
 
For the second time in a row we hammer home one simple fact:  Obama cut $700billion from Medicare to support his Obamacare.  There is not one Republican plan that cuts money out of Medicare.  It will be bankrupt in ten or eleven years if nothing is done.
 
It is Democrats and Obama that have lied and cut from Medicare.
 
For two days, we have hammered home a simple fact, and Brit Hume asks Paul Ryan if he thinks it will work with the American people. 
 
Ryan-Romney have bitten off a huge project to show 2+2=4.  Democrats care and Republicans don't has been etched in stone.  Radio people can't do it alone: it needs to be our candidates.  I am still amazed it is this hard.
>>> And maybe it is easy — we are about to find out.       [Pray for USA]
 
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Seg#14:  Even Democrat Ron Wyden will demonize his own House bill
Caller: Newt was the one that told Ryan it was Rightwing Social Engineering.
      So that forced him to talk to Democrat Ron Wyden, who now is back-peddling back out of it more than Dion Sanders [NFL receiver.]
 
Caller: FoxNews reported that seven out of ten GM cars are not USA.
          The bailout of General Motors are mounting no matter where the cars are manufactured.  GM is iconic and I've loved them in the past.
>>> What Obama has done to GM is unconscionable.  
 
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Seg#15:  Rush Limbaugh will be working on other projects.
We will have substitutes coming in for the rest of the week.
>>> I'll be back on Tuesday, from then to Election.
Closing:   Be sure to tune in and also check our website.
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From the Rush Limbaugh Morning Update: "Favors!"
California Democrats are worried. They're afraid a tax initiative that Governor "Moonbeam" Brown got onto the November ballot might be in trouble, due to newly revealed political favors.
It's just been reported that California Senate President Darrell Steinberg, Democrat, authorized raises for more than 1,000 legislative employees. Democrats. The raises weren't puny either. Many of the state senate legislative aides, who already make six-figure incomes were granted ten percent increases. The California Assembly is planning to hand out raises to their legislative aides, too.
While rewarding their own with raises, Democrats were forcing other state workers to take unpaid furlough days, and eliminating popular programs.
What's it going to take before you California voters figure it out? You're being played by seasoned, professional, con men. While you're being told that your services must be cut there's no money these guys have billions to drop on a "train to nowhere," to pay off their strongest union backers. Who, by the way, all support the Democrats' plan to slaughter you with more taxes.
With unemployment raging, many of you struggling to make ends meet, thousands trying to avoid foreclosure, businesses going under these guys reward their own staffs with generous raises, that you pay for, then they tell you the economy sucks. They live like kings and emperors, while you work like indentured servants to fund their lifestyles. And then, they come to you, hat in hand, asking you to raise taxes on yourselves! If you do it you deserve what follows!
 
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Quote Gems from Rush Limbaugh dot com:
"This is why I'm a little jazzed by this. There is a conservative on the ticket -- a proud, bold, unashamed, unapologetic conservative. And not just a 'fiscal' conservative, a small-government conservative. Not all fiscal conservatives equal small-government conservatives. This guy is a small-government conservative."
"I don't remember a vice presidential pick that has so energized a campaign as this choice of Paul Ryan."
"Have you noticed that, in three days, we already know more about Paul Ryan's life than we've learned about Obama's and Biden's in more than four years? And Ryan hasn't even written two biographies!"
"Ryan doesn't cut Medicare; he saves it. It's Obama who's destroying Medicare, who's cut $700 billion from Medicare, not Ryan! We have a guy who knows the truth here."
"We don't have to tell people what will happen if Obama is elected. All we have to do is point out what has happened. But you need the right guy to be able to explain it. Paul Ryan is the guy."
"I don't know how much you paid attention over the weekend, but the presence of Paul Ryan on a stage with Romney has elevated Romney. It has energized Romney. Romney's a new guy. Romney is a different guy."
"I watched 60 Minutes last night, Ryan chomping at the bit to answer every question. Ryan wanted in 'cause he's got the answer. He had the answer for everything Bob Schieffer threw. He's got the answer for every objection the Obama team is going to make."
"Ryan is an ideological conservative. He is from the camp-of-Ronaldus Magnus."
"If Barack Obama gets four more years, I really don't think that the American people have any idea what's in store for them."
"I do believe -- and I may be a Pollyanna, and my time may be past, but I still believe -- that a clear majority of people who live in this country want this country to be what it was as founded. They want it to be made up of those first principles."
"We are where we are because the ideas, the beliefs, the so-called principles of Barack Obama are anathema to the United States of America as founded."
"Medicare is the number one spending item in the federal budget. Not Social Security. Not the defense budget. Medicare is what's going to run us into insolvency. It has to be reformed and fixed."
"We've got somebody who can articulate what we believe. It's in his heart. He doesn't need crib notes. He doesn't need briefings. He doesn't need a consultant to tell him what to think or how to answer a question. He knows it. He's lived it. It's his soul."
"I look at the Democrats trying to tar and feather this guy as they're going to. Have you noticed, for example, that in three days we already know more about Paul Ryan's life than we've learned about Obama's and Biden's in more than four years? And Ryan hasn't even written two biographies! Ryan hadn't even written one biography."
"I guarantee you, if Ryan and Romney win the election you're going to see the stock market go through the roof. You're going to see small businesses start to hire. It's going to happen so fast you do believe it, the moment it's known that Obama's out of office."
"The greatest example of human prosperity is the United States of America, and it was not made up of the way Barack Obama sees it or wants it to be seen or wants it to exist."
"We now have somebody on the ticket who's us. Somebody's on the ticket who can explain all of this, who believes all of this in his heart and in his soul. His name is Paul Ryan, and he can do it with optimism and a smile on his face and no bitterness and so forth."
"You know, if he'd-a chosen, say, Rubio, the accusation would have been that Romney was pandering to a group. If he'd-a chosen Condi, same accusation: Pandering to a group. This pick told me that Romney is not just serious about winning, but governing."
"The subprime mortgage crisis is the foundation of the economic collapse, and it was brought to us by the Democrat Party in race-based errors. They thought it was unfair that people who couldn't afford to buy a house shouldn't have one, and it was a disaster. And we're still paying the price, pure and simple. Nothing complicated about it."
"The Democrats now think all they have to do is tie Paul Ryan to ending Medicare just like Kathy Hochul did, and they win every congressional race. That's what they're planning on doing."
"The current national debt is $16 trillion. Obama's budget, which has not secured one vote, projects that it will be $26 trillion in ten years. And his budget assumes tax increases on the rich. Sorry, folks. We can't sustain that. That's not doable. We can't survive that."
 
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Quotable quotes from Fox News and talk radio:
 
"You're brother is going to make a difference in the world." Jack Kemp to young Tobin Ryan, the brother of younger Paul Ryan. Greta van Susteren also interviews speaker Boehner, "I couldn't be happier." "Mitt Romney is a proven job-creator, and understands how to do that."
 
"President Obama has zero foreign affairs experience;  and the policies Joe Biden put forward were all wrong." House Speaker Boehner. "More members than you might realize camp out in their DC office, rather than pay $20,000/yr after taxes."
 
"President Obama isn't trying to fix the tax-rate sunset;  He has been on the campaign trail for 49 weeks.  Voters can put a fire under legislators if they want to."  Boehner
 
"In the end, it wasn't just Republicans and Independents, but swing Democrat voters that made the difference.  Romney-Ryan will be a sharp contract to Obama-Biden." WI Gov Scott Walker.  "He ran for Congress at 27 and I ran at age 25—we hit it off."
 
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  Here's Erskine Bowles, former chief of staff to President Clinton and a leading Democratic grandee, calling Paul Ryan "amazing," and saying his budget proposal is "sensible, serious . . , and honest" (and also admitting that Obama's budget proposals are neither serious nor honest).  This video is only a little more than one minute long.  The Romney campaign ought to use a clip of the first half of this in »
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  Having smacked around Bill Galston here a few days ago for parroting the MSNBC/DNC line on voter ID and vote fraud, fairness requires that Power Line give him a shoutout for his post on The New Republic blog today where he warns Democrats of the consequences of demonizing Paul Ryan rather than debating fiscal policy seriously: Here's what I fear will happen instead. The Obama campaign will not take the »
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  The up-to-date annotated edition of F.A. Hayek's Constitution of Liberty, the subject of numerous posts from me last year, is now finally available on Kindle for just $5.13.  You can't pass up a bargain like that.           And while you're shopping for Kindle bargains, Glenn Reynolds' short treatise, The Higher Education Bubble, is available on Kindle for just $1.99.  Enjoy! »
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If you are in the Cleveland area this Saturday, you won't want to miss the Tea Party protest to bring attention to MSM whitewashes/cover-ups of Occupy violence/criminality.
BE HERE: Willard Park/Freestamp Plaza in Cleveland, Ohio
Saturday, August 18, 2012 from 11:00 AM to 1:00 PM (EDT)
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